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  • Judge halts USAID cuts

    From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Thursday, March 20, 2025 18:07:24
    Hey Dumas!

    On Thursday, 20.03.25 13:41:00, you wrote:

    How does a judge of any kind rule that something "likely" happens? That's
    like saying "possibly" or "probably".

    I think it is like a preliminary ruling. They do that in cases where there is some sort of injunction requested... in this case, to have USAID functions restroted... and then they would later go on and hear the case in full.

    Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are you sure this is a reliable source?

    The judge seemed pretty confident that Musk has proven, by his own words, that he is in full control of DOGE and not just a special advisor as has been claimed.

    We'll see how it plays out, if there's anything to play out at all. If most of these news sites are starting to incorporate AI, we're all in for a world of hurt as far as fake news goes - as if there wasn't enough of it already.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Thursday, March 20, 2025 18:11:20
    Hey MRO!

    On Thursday, 20.03.25 16:18:04, you wrote:

    What most of our politicians do is essentialy treason. we'd be better off without them and I think they should be tried for their crimes.

    I agree with this. But hanging is a thing of the past.

    Regarding republicans going after biden, i have not seen anybody go after someone like they've gone after trump. Democrats actually neglected important duties to go after trump, and this is verifiable by public records. They didn't do their jobs(ie show up to work and vote on
    agendas, follow meeting agendas or even meet for rulings) so they could go after trump on several occasions.

    That's because the media is actually publishing all of this. They were either told not to, or just didn't want to report all of the things the Republicans were going after the Biden administration for.

    Other than that, the Democrats haven't done their jobs in the past (at least) 4 years, either. Why would they start now?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Thursday, March 20, 2025 20:41:32
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Accession to MRO on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:11 pm

    Hey MRO!

    On Thursday, 20.03.25 16:18:04, you wrote:

    What most of our politicians do is essentialy treason. we'd be better off without them and I think they should be tried for their crimes.

    I agree with this. But hanging is a thing of the past.


    Treason can carry the death penalty.
    Politicians have done political favors for china, russia and other countries for monetary gain for themselves and family members. For example, Russia and other countries paid money into american lobbying firms for politicians.

    If we'd start hanging these fuckers instead ignoring it, we'd get rid
    of the bad ones. Instead they become lifetime participants in our branches of govt and that is why everything sucks.
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  • From Jimmy@VERT/PARTYBOW to Accession on Friday, March 21, 2025 09:38:07
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:07 pm

    Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are > sure this is a reliable source?
    This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Jimmy on Friday, March 21, 2025 18:49:22
    Hey Jimmy!

    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 09:38:06 -0400, you wrote:

    This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

    If it's very common, that's probably why they get replaced and/or voted out so often.

    That said, I'll "likely" not believe rulings like this, or take them seriously.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jimmy on Friday, March 21, 2025 21:57:25
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Jimmy to Accession on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:38 am

    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 20 2025 06:07 pm

    Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe". Are
    sure this is a reliable source?
    This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charges, the term is "preponderence of the evidence", and the "burden of proof" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt". If the burden needs to be beyond doubt, then the only two answers are yes/no. Otherwise (in about 80% of all cases), the burdenis lower and the ruling only needs to be it "likely happened".

    it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out or not pursued. it's sandbagging.
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  • From Jimmy@VERT/PARTYBOW to MRO on Sunday, March 23, 2025 08:10:40
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: MRO to Jimmy on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:57 pm

    Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe" > > This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and the charg > it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out > not pursued. it's sandbagging.

    It is how it is supposed to work. It is not a "waste of time", unless you don'tunderstand the system and misinterpret what is happening. Which I assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be impeached for it". For
    what? For doing his/her job the way it is supposed to be done, according to therules? You might not like the system or the rules of that system, and that is
    fine. Change the rules instead of the penalizing people for obeying the rules as currently written.

    Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
    Judge: It is likely to have occured.
    MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

    Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jimmy on Sunday, March 23, 2025 22:25:54
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: MRO to Jimmy on Fri Mar 21 2025 09:57 pm

    Hmm, I don't think I've ever heard of judges using "likely" or "maybe"
    This is actually very common. Depedning on the type of case and
    the charg > it's just a waste of time and it ties up shit in court until it's thrown out > not pursued. it's sandbagging.

    It is how it is supposed to work. It is not a "waste of time", unless you don'tunderstand the system and misinterpret what is happening. Which I assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be


    No, it's not how it's supposed to work. Judges are supposed to be clear and concise. If they are not, their rulings are overturned.

    have occured".
    Judge: It is likely to have occured.
    MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

    Tell me you have no clue without telling me you have no clue.

    i really hate that lame ass expression 'tell me this without telling me blah blah'

    I can't wait until you shitdicks stop saying it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Jimmy on Sunday, March 23, 2025 22:33:07
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

    assume is thecase, based on your other comment, "the judge should be impeached for it". For
    what? For doing his/her job the way it is supposed to be done, according to


    by the way, instead of LYING and making up quotes people don't say, use
    your bbses quote feature.

    moron.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Jimmy on Thursday, March 27, 2025 20:00:11
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

    Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
    Judge: It is likely to have occured.
    MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

    Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, March 27, 2025 20:52:42
    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Arelor to Jimmy on Thu Mar 27 2025 08:00 pm

    Re: Judge halts USAID cuts
    By: Jimmy to MRO on Sun Mar 23 2025 08:10 am

    Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely to have occured".
    Judge: It is likely to have occured.
    MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

    Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Friday, March 28, 2025 10:07:00
    Rule: judge must determine if evidence "suggests the accusation is likely t
    have occured".
    Judge: It is likely to have occured.
    MRO: You are sandbagging and must be romeved!!

    Maybe there is a language barrier at work here, but as far as I thought, accepting a case as solid enough for further research was not "ruling".

    Correct. It can also mean the judge believes the case is solid enough to implement an injunction, like to force the government to take the employees back and with backpay.


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